Swine Flu Pandemic in Colombia

turnmeon (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 24, 2009, 19:10:

turnmeon (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 24, 2009, 19:11:

bickerss says on Apr 24, 2009, 19:14:

It was quite a big story in CNN - started in Asia.

Investment Strategy - buying when others are crying!! Offloading when others are gloating!!!

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billyb says on Apr 24, 2009, 20:43:

Bickers, shouldn't your title have a ?, so as not to be misleading?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Buongone says on Apr 25, 2009, 00:03:

Back in 76, they had everyone go down and get this Swine Flu shot. I got one. Got sick as hell for 11 days. If that is anything compared to this new strain. You can keep it. I layed in bed for 11 days. Hardley keep 7up or Cherrios down. Sick as I have ever been. Don't know if I would get a another swine flu shot.

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aztec says on Apr 25, 2009, 04:14:

Like Buongone I took the Swine Flu shot and it almost killed me. Made me very sick. There were many people paralyzed or killed by this shot. On of our friends has been confined to a wheelchair ever since takings the shot.

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Waterdawg says on Apr 25, 2009, 05:39:

I thought we where due for a good Pizza joint ?

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Portena1 says on Apr 25, 2009, 14:19:

Hi gringoloid,

I think a lot of your ideas are intriguing, but horses are routinely vaccinated against VEE. I think someone really screwed up with the supplement mix as has been implied in some of the articles. There were ingredients that could easily cause internal hemorrhaging and heart problems in the wrong doses. Heartbreaking story.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Portena1 says on Apr 25, 2009, 17:58:

I certainly agree with your point of looking at all the angles, gringoloid. And, of course, VEE from Fort Detrick would be weapons grade.

Selenium overdose could be quite deadly for a horse a veterinarian tells me. I have owned horses all of my life, gloid. Especially in Florida, any responsible horse owner is going to vaccinate against VEE. I also know some people on the international show circuit and there are quarantines and other precautions taken when transporting horses internationally.

http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/04/selenium_overdose_caused...

I'd be a bit more concerned and suspicious about the swine flu right now when considering conspiracy theories.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Portena1 says on Apr 25, 2009, 18:32:

I don't know, it's just that everyone is baffled, and that itself is baffling. I'm doing what any good detective would do and keep an open mind. My complaint witht the Fox News religionists is that they take whatever is handed to them and end of story. Anybody who asks a question is a nutcase.

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Well, and calling someone a 'nutcase' is the best way to discount the truth when there are conspiracies. Look at all the instances of political dissidents who were locked away in psychiatric hospitals.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Portena1 says on Apr 26, 2009, 10:10:

Gloid, I know you were referring to YOURSELF as having been called a 'nutcase'. I'm saying I don't think you are.

Anyway, my veterinary friends telll me it's too soon to have results for the necropsies - these things take time.

Also, there are cases where dosage errors occur because the pharmacist misread the (often sloppy) handwriting on the prescription.

For example, the dose of Selenium used in the compounded drug was 5 mg. Perhaps it was written as .5 mg and the decimal point was overlooked? To prevent these types of errors many physicians and veterinarians will be sure to include a zero before the decimal point. 0.5 mg. Medication errors happen all the time in the health care industry and they are therefore are one of the safety issues that is constantly monitored for improvement by hospital patient safety committees.

I think it's higly likely that a pharmacist might catch a dosage error when preparing a medication for a human, but I think they wouold be much less likely to realize or catch a dosage error when preparing a medication for an animal.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Portena1 says on Apr 26, 2009, 11:40:

Why go after the ponies with VEE? And who would be the connection from Fort Detrick?

As mentioned in several articles these games are not played for the money. The purses are about $1500.00 which would not cover board or feed for even a day for 21 ponies in this very wealthy area in Florida.

Sure, there are psychopaths who might simply want to wipe out their competitor due to a grudge, but killing the ponies with VEE stolen from Fort Detrick?

Maybe there are very strict quality controls in place at that compounding pharmacy as you are assuming then maybe not. One would hope so. However, despite all kinds of quality controls in hospitals, medication errors are one of the biggest dangers patients face.

As I mentioned before, I'd be much more concerned about the Swine Flu pandemic, and what might going on in this case...

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Portena1 says on Apr 26, 2009, 12:07:

They don't care about a $1500 purse. ---------- Exactly.

Carry on with your investigation. : ) And give us a full report as soon as you close the case.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 26, 2009, 13:33:

Gloid, your obsession with Fox News is interesting.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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sloopskipper says on Apr 26, 2009, 16:15:

gringoloid (Trustee board) says on Apr 26, 2009, 14:14 (today): flag

"Fox News is a metaphor for the corporate controlled media. i pick Fox because it is well known and easy to type. If i was to be more accurate i would write abccbsfoxnbccnnbbc, etc. there is print media too.

If I lived in the states I would watch NBC Nightly News every night as that has the best and clearest spin. There are a lot of clues on NBC where as Fox is just plain old propaganda."

Me too, but it seems that NBC has withdrawn from all foreign markets, so no NBC, MSNBC, or CNBC. I had CNBC, but I had to upgrade my cable service twice to keep it, and then it finally faded to black. Now I can watch MSNBC content on internet, but must pay for CNBC.

But I have CNN, ABC, CBS, and Fox, Fox, Fox, and more foken FOX on cable!

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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sloopskipper says on Apr 26, 2009, 16:21:

gringoloid (Trustee board) says on Apr 26, 2009, 14:33 (today): flag

"and portena, i'm not ruling out that this swine flu thing is a deliberate distraction to throw everyone off from say, Gaza-Iraq War Crimes, torture scandals, Federal Reserve and Wall ST crime, etc. the Scott Petersen trial and fanfare was to keep everyones mind from the upcoming Iraq war. hundreds of spouses are murdered each year, why was that such a big deal.

the 1976 swine flu epidemic turned out to be bogus. was that to get people's minds off of watergate and get the country moving again? who knows?

lets take a vote on the real reason for this swine flu thing.......


A deliberate distraction from the torture scandal
A deliberate attempt at depopulation
A deliberate attempt to scare us all into world government
A combination of depopulation and world government
Someone dropped a beaker at the bio-weapons lab
A sales pitch for Rumsfeld's vaccines
God's punishment for bad singers in church choirs"

Maybe all the above?

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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Portena1 says on Apr 26, 2009, 17:27:

You'll have to read my mind if you want an answer.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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sloopskipper says on Apr 26, 2009, 17:42:

We're connecting:

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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Portena1 says on Apr 26, 2009, 17:46:

That's funny!

I hear it doesn't work with blondes though.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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sloopskipper says on Apr 26, 2009, 17:47:

Damnnnnn!

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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ujay says on Apr 26, 2009, 17:52:

well they got you all to buy up all the bullets ,
now its the masks
and every one will be running for a flu shot ,
big bucks being made.....

http://www.jukelightning.com

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Portena1 says on Apr 26, 2009, 17:53:

Our cognitions are genetically encrypted. Scientists around the world have been working 24/7 to crack the code - to no avail.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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Portena1 says on Apr 26, 2009, 18:18:

Maybe you could get a prescription for the antivirals that work against it as a precautionary measure - So far, This strain of swine flu does appear sensitive to the antiviral drugs Relenza and Tamiflu, but not to amantadine, or Symmetrel, and rimantadine, or Flumadine (according to the news reports I'm reading). No vaccination has been created yet.

No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings - Blake, The Marriage of Heaven and Hell

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ujay says on Apr 26, 2009, 18:37:

you think the ones that don't eat pork get more upset if they get swine flu

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sloopskipper says on Apr 27, 2009, 02:35:

I’m for sure postponing a tentatively planned trip to the Yucatan (even though there are no reports there, yet).

Hell, I’m even avoiding the airport here.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 27, 2009, 08:22:

Good day to buy Mexican stocks, or COPA airline stock, if you think this thing will pass fairly quickly.

I wanted access to health care, housing and education, but, no, I get potholes, trash and silicone tits instead. -Desi.

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sloopskipper says on Apr 27, 2009, 09:34:

CPA was off about 4 bucks at Friday's close, but regained a bit today.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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sloopskipper says on Apr 27, 2009, 09:56:

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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rca_rodrigo says on Apr 27, 2009, 13:53:

swine flu live
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miamimike says on Apr 27, 2009, 14:19:

Like TT, I had the Swine Flu Vaccine in 1976--absolutely no problem. Some of these same naysayers will say crazy stuff like cooking in theMicrowaves(of today) will cause Cancer. Crazy stuff,,,

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Soy Yo, Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska.

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aztec says on Apr 27, 2009, 14:42:

I am currently watching a news program where the medical authorities stated that there were 500 documented cases of paralysis as a result of the Swine Flu shot in 76. If you will recall the government realized the mistake and discontinued the shots.

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aztec says on Apr 27, 2009, 14:45:

Now I am not as skeptical as pow pow. If offered I will take a swine flu shot again. The last one put me in bed for 3 days.

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miamimike says on Apr 27, 2009, 18:12:

pow wow says on Apr 27, 2009, 14:43 (today): flag

hi miamimike i have a question for you the question is this do you think a vaccine manufacuturer would release a vaccine to the public knowing people were dying from it and it was contaminated with aids..??
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More crazy stuff; just what the "Toxic ingredients" you write of in a flu vaccine injection? Mercury injected in your bloodstream???
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What is the flu shot?
The flu shot is an inactivated vaccine (containing killed virus) that is given with a needle, usually in the arm. It contains three influenza viruses. The three vaccine strains – one A (H3N2) virus, one A (H1N1) virus, and one B virus – are representative of the influenza vaccine strains recommended for that year. Viruses for the flu shot are grown in eggs.



http://www.cdc.gov/FLU/about/qa/flushot.htm

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Soy Yo, Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska.

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