Nice Apartment MEDELLIN Good Price

span_colombia says on Oct 22, 2009, 17:54:

sounds like a pretty good deal. I'd take a look at it if I lived in medellin. there's a chance I'll be there early next year, so if you've got the room available then we'll talk.

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 05:55:

Just so you know a habitation in the best neighborhoods runs about 400K maybe 450k a month in Bogota. Medellin runs cheaper than that. So for someone not wanting to make money you have the highest prices around.

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Aji1 says on Oct 23, 2009, 05:58:

HAHA, giv'em hell OFYM

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:01:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:05:

pick up a newspaper, explore your own ignorance.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:13:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:16:

Dude he is not renting an apartment he is renting a habitation. Take a look inthe section where habitations are and then look at the price. He is renting a room not an apartment.

OK here is my advice since I have helped people with this all over Colombia.

Saturday Morning early get the paper and go quick to check the places out. Apartments same goes. They will only be there for one day and will be rented that day because they are nice, because the price is good and those go quick. The ones you see in the paper through the week are people trying to scalp someone as they are still for rent because the prices are too high or it is a dump.

Ever been to Bogota? You have no idea what high prices are in Colombia. Bogota has the highest prices of apartments and habitations in Colombia, are you denying that fact?

Is he renting this habitation in El Pablado? NO

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:21:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:31:

It is in the paper man. I have a friend that just rented a habbitation for 400K a month and it is in a nice house in estrato 5. What am I supposed to go and hold their hand and help them shop?

Go around where you want to live and check out the signs on the buildings, the paper on Saturday morning. That is good advice the other good advice I have is ignore people who write travel guides and have no clue about Colombia but think they do.

Thank You

800k for an apartment in Bogota? ARE WE TALKING HABBITATIONS OR APARTMENTS? READ THE THREAD HE IS RENTING A HABBITATION.

800k for an apartment in Bogota is not bad, for Medellin it is better,

Here is you;
one
exactly, so if the apartment costs around 800.000 pesos utilities 300.000 internet tv 150.000, so that`s 1.250.000 for 2 rooms that makes 625.000 each. So if you have acces to such cheap rooms, so please help the people here, they do not have acces to your informatioon.
Mak

That is a ok price for an apartment 300k for interent? I pay 76K for 1k intenet and unlimited calls and my phone is included. My TV is ummm Colombian cable.

Again he is not looking to share the apartment he is looking to rent a habbitation and a big difference. Is he going to put this persons name on the lease? NO? Well then he is renting a habbitation and in Colombia you do not rent a habbitation for half the rent.

Anyone reading this that really wants to do this just pick up the frickin paper on Saturday.

I am out.

This guy should put the rent at 400 a month. Then I would not have said a thing since that is the going rate. 550 with the dissclaimer he is not wanting to make money? Yea right!

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:55:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:58:

Bogota the most expensive city next to Cartegena in Colombia and yes more expensive than Medellin. That is common knowledge.

Why do I feel like I am beating a dead horse? jaja

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 06:59:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:03:

I am helping. This guy is not in touch with Colombia. He thinks he is in the US or something and is going to share the cost of his apartment. I am trying to Colombianize the guy. He needs to get real and rent the room as a habbitation and not sharing the apartment expense. If he wants that then he needs to share the aprtment including the other person on the lease. This is how it is done in Colombia. he is renting a habbitationa dn he is asking too much for it. that habbitation where he is should rent for about 350K.

Just trying to help, if someone would like to find a habbitation for 400k pesos then contact me on Saturday morning with the paper in your hand and I will show you were to go. Do I need to use my Saturday to take them around and show them as well? Is that what you would do? JAJA

You think my post was not helpful? Well that is your problem. I think it was very helpful.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:18:

emerson_wylde says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:22:

OFYM - you are as wrong as a person could possibly be. I know the OP and what he is offering -- he is offering to SHARE his apartment and split the costs. Simple. Anyone needing a place to stay in Medellin should consider the OPs offer and ignore OFYM - what he wrote will be worthless to you - once you start looking for a place in Medellin you will quickly see that what he says is nonsense.

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:24:

Not sure what you are asking? You want my friend to move out of that habitation so they can move in?

I tell you what my time is worth something and you have just waisted a bunch of it. You want to make a $500 or whatever amount you want bet that I can find a nice habitation in a estrato 5 for 400K? I will take you right where my friend is, you can talk to the landlord and then pay me my $500? Put up or shut up.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:25:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:32:

JAJA yea ok gringos you know all about it. I can find a habitation in Medellin for 350k in that barrio but listen to these guys and do it gringo, then go ahead....bend over. I am just trying to help you live like a Colombian here. If it is sharing the apartment then you need to be on the lease and it is sharing the apartment completely. This is a room for rent.
I am certainly not wrong.

Sorry I said anything next tiem I see a gringo getting bent over I am going to enjoy the show.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:35:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:42:

I already told you.

You said that internet banda ancha is 300K a month and then you said 150k for cable? That shows me you are completely clueless to prices in Colombia. If your paying that then they bent you over big time.

Internet with phone banda ancha 1k for 78k ETB, Cable is about 80k Cablenet in estrato 5 or 6. So you say that is 450K for internet and cable? On what planet do you live? You say some rediculous crap like that and then your going to interigate me like I don't know? Your just are completely lost my friend, completely in the woods. I was thinking of reading your travel guides but with that I am not gonna bother.

I am waisting my time. I think am going to go talk to my dog, he makes more sense.

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emerson_wylde says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:43:

You are absolutely wrong - he is offering to equally share the apartment completely - kitchen, sala, etc.

It isn't complicated -- somebody looking for a place will have THE EXACT SAME use of the apartment as the OP, and will split the costs down the middle. Who cares that the person's name won't be on the lease - especially if they're only going to be in the city for a few months.

You should limit your nonsense to posts that aren't going to affect real people in the real world. When people go looking for a place to stay in a new country they are very worried about getting ripped off -- and your bullshit about this being some kind of rip off is not only hurtful to the OP, but it is hurtful to anyone looking for a place because you've put out this WRONG notion. Very irresponsible of you.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:45:

oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:46:

yea yea yea and you guys are completely lost.

In an estrato 2 or 3 the habitation is 100k. Good day kiddies.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 07:47:

Robert Jorge says on Oct 23, 2009, 08:09:

I would love to rent out a room with full access to the house for half of what I pay per month. My monthly costs are about $2000 Usd. I have a roomate that pays $450 month.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 08:47:

You don't know where I live. jaja Some people are happy when you screw them I guess? Gringos you sucker into beleiving they are getting a deal is who you rent to. I am right on that one.

Yes Robert everyone would but it is not realistic in Colombia or only to someone that does not know any better. Too bad I am around to tell tehm the better. ya

But yo nwo what bothers me is this guy said he doesn'want to mak anything? Like he is doign a favor. I know that type and if you mvoe n ther an pay that your nuts. He is makng money on that deal and should just say so.I hate it when people takeyurmoney and act like they are doing you a favor, he is not. It migh be a good deal for someone but he is advertisig it as not making money and I know for sure he is higher than any Colombian renting a room to a Colombian in that area.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 08:48:

span_colombia says on Oct 23, 2009, 08:58:

wow, this one ignited a lot of comments

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theflatline says on Oct 23, 2009, 09:01:

I know where to find nice 2 bedroom apartments in the zona rosa of Manizales for 600-800 a month with utilities included. But the typical Colombian real estate "mogul" will rent the same one out for 1.2 a month and always have empty units.

Legaleez for Complete Morons - A book for gringos in Colombia for who think they understand the nature of the law in a country where they cannot speak the language.

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Haghj00 says on Oct 23, 2009, 09:02:

250 USD is nothing, why are you guys even spending so much time arguing about this is beyond me...

Move along

There is no god, never was and never will be.

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tropicalshirt says on Oct 23, 2009, 09:13:

Yep.

Rooms in Medellin run about 150,000 to 450,000 on here:

http://www.mundoanuncio.com/zona/colombia_12/categoria/habitacion_en_a...

Sure it may or not be a better deal due to what it offers but how many Paisas would take it?

The Rolos I know tell me that the average price per month in a good zone, estrato 4 and 5, for one studio flat or one flat with one room is between 500.000 and 600.000, plus the cost for the administration $150.000 more or less. That would be long term, a small place etc. But that is what they are looking at.

Span, how many cities did you get to trying for the new job? Sicario work is all taken in Medellin ;-) Good luck.

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span_colombia says on Oct 23, 2009, 09:21:

tropicalshirt - I'm looking at a colegio in bucaramanga and university work in medellin

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emerson_wylde says on Oct 23, 2009, 09:56:

OFYM says:
"But yo nwo what bothers me is this guy said he doesn'want to mak anything? Like he is doign a favor. I know that type and if you mvoe n ther an pay that your nuts. He is makng money on that deal and should just say so"

AGAIN, for anyone who cares about the truth, the OP is a straight shooter, honest to a fault kind of guy, which is why I am speaking up here. He isn't making anything, he's happy to have someone to split expenses with -- nothing wrong about that.

Someone looking for a nice place to stay in Medellin in a good area has options:

Zoltar rents rooms in his house - in august he was asking 700.000 mil pesos - but PM him for his current rates
http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/zoltar-suites---updated-5/

You can rent an apartamento amoblado - small apartastudios start at 1.000.000 per month (again, in a nice area) plus plan on about 250.000 to 300.000 for servicios. That same apartastudio would rent for about 700.000 per month long term, unfurnished, and you would need 2 co-signers willing to put up their real estate to guarantee your pay rent.

You can find someone with a furnished apartment willing to share it with you - which is what the OP offers - he is basically splitting his costs down the middle. (By the way, the distinction about "renting a room out" is moot if you are talking about a shared 2 bedroom apartment).

You can negotiate a long term rate at one of the more economical hotels -- I can recommend Los Balcones de la 70, near UPB in Laureles - - clean, safe, well located -- plan on about 1.000.000 per month and noise from the discos on the weekend, and no kitchen.

You can scour the classifieds and find somebody with a house willing to rent you a room -- you might save a little money, but you'll be living in a room probably in some family's house -- for me, not worth the few pesos you might save. But an option nonetheless.

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 10:16:

Emerson straight shooter? Then he should remove the comment that he doesn't care to make anything on it. He would not be able to rent to a Colombain for that. So he is taking advantage.

yep 5 to 600 In Bogota you can get a studio apt for that in a 4 maybe a five an old place not easy though. In an OK area if you look for it but like said there are more costly ones that agents are collecting fees and in no hurry to ren it. Direct to the owner is always the best deal or usually anyway. In a 6 you can not really get anything less than 1.2 and 250 admin. That is in a 20 year old building. Anything with a park view is 3 million to five million new, etc

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 23, 2009, 10:19:

span_colombia says on Oct 23, 2009, 10:22:

I agree 100% with emerson.

yes it is true that this is higher than the norm for a furnished room. for example, in poblado a year ago, I paid 550.000/month for a furnished room and 2 meals a day. it wasn't a very nice apartment, 4 other people lived there and there was no hot water (still a pretty good deal :)

it's easy to quote prices like 400.000/month for a nice furnished room in poblado, but the devil is in the details. is there communal living space or have the living and dining room been cut up to create additional bedrooms? is the bathroom nasty with non-working fixtures? what's the water pressure like? how many people are you sharing the kitchen/apartment with? are your future roommates psychos?

all details to carefully consider.

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 10:26:

yes well the things that just bugs the shit out of me is that he said he does not want to make anything off of it. Well there are a whole lot of Colombians that would love to rent a room for 550 a month and can not 700 a month? oh yea. They are renting them for 350 to 400 a month because that is what the market bares. But yep he is not making anything......

"I'm not looking to make money on this" Yea right

It is an attitude that gringos bring to Colombia. They just don't get it.

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emerson_wylde says on Oct 23, 2009, 11:03:

You don't make sense OFYM - you keep talking about someone renting out a room -- in fact, he is offering to share a 2 bedroom apartment with somebody and split the costs. Renting a room out is more like the scenario that span_colombia described. You have to compare apples to apples - a person absolutely, positively, unequivocably cannot expect to share a two bedroom apartment with one other person on a short term basis in a nice area of Medellin for the 350-400 per month you are talking about.

Look, this guy found an apartment, got fiadores to cosign the lease, furnished it, set up servicios -- yet someone can step off a plane in Medellin tomorrow, move into that apartment immediately and enjoy it 100% the same as him -- but somehow you think that person should pay LESS of the expenses than the OP does!! And by splitting the expenses in half, somehow he is profiting??? That doesn't even make a little bit of sense.

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 12:16:

In Colombia when you do that you share the lease. The way he is doing it he also has control of the apartment, full control yet receivs half the rent and expenses? OK I m just saying that is not how it is done in Colombia. US ok but not here. If you think it is a good deal well then never mind me.

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 12:23:

I see there now a habitation is 800k in PBHlandia! JAJA It is funny boys.

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cage says on Oct 23, 2009, 13:46:

Wow oneforyourmillion really knows alot of stuff.
I'm impressed with your knowledge of my apartment and what I pay without even seeing it or speaking to me.
You're just awesome.

So you say I'm making money on this?
If it costs 700 for rent and 300 for utilities then if you do the math thats 1,000,000 divided by 2, what does that come to?
Nevermind the fact that I am supplying the bed you'll be sleeping on, the fridge you'll be using , washing machine, the tv , even the damn dishes knives spoons and forks. (those things do cost money right?).
You say my attitude is one that gringos bring to Colombia?
It seems you're attitude is give me something for nothing.
Sorry, I'm not in the charity business.
I've got a feeling you're one of those guys that goes out drinking with a group, sucks down the licor like an alchy, then disappears before the bill comes.


Everything emerson said is 100% true, thanks.

The room is available for what I posted above, if anyones interested you can come by and check it out.

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Robert Jorge says on Oct 23, 2009, 15:45:

One4 is not trying to insult you. The simple fact is that the market will not bear splitting rent and utilities AFTER it is already leased to you. If you, with another person, seek an apartment together with the previous intention of splitting the costs, that is a whole other animal. Renting or owning a place, and THEN seeking a roomate to split everything 50/50 won't happen. It doesn't happen in the US. I rent to a roomate at 20% of my monthly costs just to have supplemental cash flow. I could never rent my place for $1000 a month with me living there already. I am sure you are honest and I am not questioning your integrity. However, you might be a little naive.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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cage says on Oct 23, 2009, 19:07:

It won't happen? The market wont bear it?
$250.000???????????

Ive rented places for about the same, actually more, in other peoples apartments
Ive known many many who have done the same, and many times for alot more than about 50% of the total cost per month.
I mean someones gotta be in the apartment first right? in this case its me.
Ive rented to about 10 different people in the past 2 years in my old place, so dont tell me the market won't bear it.
Also no offense but simple reality.
Colombians never come looking at any place ive tried to rent, why?, because 99% of them live with mommy forever.
The place is 525,000 pesos per month, if thats too much I dont know what to tell you, maybe search en metro cables area.
Or if money not the problem, go to an agency, deal with them, get a co-signer to put up his house as collateral because noboby trusts nobody here, spend a few million on furniture and appliances and your set.

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whitewidow says on Oct 23, 2009, 19:52:

do you allow guns?

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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Hola B says on Oct 23, 2009, 20:35:

do you have clean cotton sheets?

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MaBarker says on Oct 23, 2009, 20:39:

I have my ear to the ground for real estate offerings in Bogotá and Medellin everyday. There is nothing wrong with this deal.

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oneforyourmillion says on Oct 23, 2009, 21:09:

I know people that are renting habitations in Houses in Bogota that are nicer than anything built in your barrio and they pay 450 a month. So OK you are gringo and you rent to other gringos. Don't mean to insult you either but when you comming to Colombia?

This post
bla bla bla bla bla bla ba Roberts comment bla bl bla bla bla bla bla........other than me I think he is the only one living in Colombia since he knows how it is here exactlya d is exactly what I am trying to say. I think he said it better btu sometimes it is just hard for me to state the obvious without assuming there is some idea of how things are here.

This guy is describing perfectly renting apartments in the US but not typical of Colombia so renting to other gringos OK. More power to him until the other gringos figure out they can live like a Colombian and save 200k a month.

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BillBigD says on Oct 26, 2009, 20:53:

One and Robert make sense to me.
Mako- Are you getting 50% of your rent paid when you lease your room?

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 21:01: